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		<title>Cliff Notes: UC-Irvine, Eligibility</title>
		<description>Discuss Cliff Notes: UC-Irvine, Eligibility</description>
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			<title>rugbyfan1 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11578</link>
			<description><![CDATA[guys, in our union (midwest) you can not just participate. you have to pay CIPP and for REferres, etc..... we have to schedule games, etc, etc.. there are no other OPTIONS. ... USARUGBY tells us what is needed: which is to be in good standing with the local unions and the be in full time students in good standing.... WE PAY JUST AS MUCH AS THE NEXT TEAM.... the rules are stupid and outdated.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>rugbyfan1</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:23:01 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>kmp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11570</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@rugbyfan1: The fact that they are "clubs" within the university system is what is keeping rugby from growing in this country. We need to separate ourselves from the "club" umbrella as much as possible or else we will never be viewed as anything more or different than the frisbee team.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>kmp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 09:16:24 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>patrioticrugger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11561</link>
			<description><![CDATA[you want to play club rugb then great. If you want to play for a rugby team that competes in a serious division with a national USAR competition then you need to comply with USAR rules...or join a JC team.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>patrioticrugger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:28:30 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>rugbyfan1 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11483</link>
			<description><![CDATA[cant say it enough. these are "clubs" within the college/university setting. repeat: not NCAA or NAII sponsored. the college club I put my blood sweat and tears into considered us along with the other 200 clubs, like ultimate frisbee and the outdoors club. simple. make the rules simple. if you are a current college student you can participate in the clubs on campus - you should be able to play for the rugbly club! forget about them, only if full time, only if you have good grades, only if you have cipped, only if you have matching uniforms, only if you have, etc.... the top down organizational model sucks..]]></description>
			<dc:creator>rugbyfan1</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:41:06 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sdkyle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11474</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I feel like I must be diligent and say some things about myself. I personally know Jim Wilson the ex-coach and admin in this matter. He stepped away for family considerations (congrats on the new family btw). I have been good friends with the new coaches there as well. I have been part of the SDSU rugby team in various capacities from 2002 until spring 2011. In that time I have come to know many of the players, refs, coaches and admins of various programs. While some of these people have come and gone, I can say despite personals considerations that those individuals have been an upstanding group of volunteers. Actions such as those reported recently are inconsistent with the character of these individuals and not to be dismissed by "everybody is doing it". I challenge the assertion that the system is corrupt. It is certainly flawed and difficult at times, but the evidence and reports suggest to me that there was serious misconduct by one coach.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sdkyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:38:26 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sdkyle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11473</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Over the past decade, having been a player, team officer, assistant coach and manager, I have had players sitting on my sideline and the opposing sideline not playing because their status was not assured to be eligible. The final responsibility rests with those that put the players on the field: the head coaches. Not the ref or admins. While normally I'd jump on the bash the admin bandwagon, I do not feel you can implicate or assign any fault in this case to Boulder. As for the socal admin... this guy probably wasn't the best choice as a commissioner, but when warm willing bodies are hard to come by, you don't really have much of a choice. If Mr. Wilson were in a similar situation, I firmly believe that he would first of all avoided the situation via not allowing the players into the match, and if he had made an error would have come clean to the whole organization without griping about other peoples actions.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sdkyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:27:55 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sdkyle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11472</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The schools that I am the most familiar with are extremely stringent on participation on the team, going so far as to audit practices and requiring extensive information, liability and contacts be in their databases. Also for the most part these schools limit participation and membership to full time students enrolled on their main campus, as fees are collected for facilities and staffing through school wide student activity fees in enrollment costs(of course not including individual team dues). I know of at least two schools that makes sure waivers are filled out before allowing anyone from taking part on activities at their facilities.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sdkyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:21:20 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>sdkyle says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[What I find most disturbing is the how he says other teams are consistently violating eligibility. I sincerely hope it is not true, but it is a possibility. However, two wrong do make his action right. As I said before, instead of corrupting your own integrity, actively press for a transparent and accountable playing field. I cannot speak for any team in the league, but I know several of the coaches in the organizations both current and past. While I might not personally like each of them, I do not think think that any of them would have dared played an ineligible player in a first side match intentionally. Like it or not there has been somewhat of a history of eligibility concerns in Socal on a variety of levels, not just collegiate or first sides. Efforts have been made to remedy this situation, but basically it relies on team compliance.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>sdkyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:11:53 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>SoCAL says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11468</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The Pacific Mountain West Conference - where all this monkey business is going on - has a D1, D2 and D3 within in it. The teams in D1 range from being in the PAC 12, Big West, Mountain West & WCC to being in the SIAC for small colleges (Claremont). Then D2 has a mixed bag too.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SoCAL</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:04:30 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>mcfaddeninsurance says:</title>
			<link>http://www.rugbymag.com/columns/cliff-notes/3953-cliff-notes-uc-irvine-eligbility.html#comment-11466</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The conference strategy will hold American rugby back. It does not encourage teams to take on "varsity" strength and conditioning. It doesn't drive teams to practice more than two times per week. We have to get past the club mentality for America to reach the elite level. Only the Premier Division model drives that competitive behavior.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:23:03 --500</pubDate>
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