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		<title>GoffonRugby: Dollars and Pounds and Pro Rugby</title>
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			<title>Working Class Rugger says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Could cut the game payments to $500 as the article also suggests. Could make it more feasible and affordable.That way the figure of $3.5 million becomes more manageable once again.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 02:31:00 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>g krazy says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[league is split between 4 areas as follows: SF, Seattle, Sacramento, LV, LA, SD, Phx, SLC, Denver, NO, Dal, Houston Pittsburgh, Chi, Minn, KC, STL, Cincy(?) Boston, NYC, Philly, ATL, DC, Charlotte All cities have either NFL or MSL facilities; large, easily accessible airports and lodging. season is two games against each team in conference and a crossover with each conference. 13 games, 1 week break mid season, then playoffs. investment terms are 3 years initially to get it up and running.... it avoids the NFL and NCAA football season(s) pretty much and still allows club play in the spring]]></description>
			<dc:creator>g krazy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:43:55 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>g krazy says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[we've worked this number up several times over a longer season (4 months plus 1 month pre-season training) and think it could be done for $500-600k per team for a season. goal would be a league that runs June-Aug/Sept with finals in Sept. May is pre-season work. top 8 teams advance to playoffs (3 weeks). so its a 17 week season]]></description>
			<dc:creator>g krazy</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:43:21 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>GrantCole says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@SemiProRugby You're right, of course. But then, I wasn't even beginning to consider the HS players when I made my suggestion. And I definitely didn't suggest "donations" in relation to the rugby. My suggestion focused on an inventive method to engender investment at a reasonable level for the individual investor (whoever they may be). I left the door open on that point. Bottom line? We've each got some good ideas which individually may not work, but inventively amalgamated may prove successful. I never think my ideas are the best, but I am always hoping that they may spur a better idea in someone more intelligent and reasonable!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>GrantCole</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:10:27 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>rookielee89 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[i am just putting this out there but the Premiership is an English premiership and not a multi country thing. I know it would be harder but the best thing is for USA Canada Argentina and maybe Uruguay to start a professional league with 3 or 4 teams per country. I mean basically something needs to happen in North and South America not go and get in to existent leagues.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>rookielee89</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:27:55 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>SemiProRugby says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Working Class Rugger & GrantCole Sorry, but I dont think you guys are taking in to consideration that most of the 100,000 CIPP players you guys keep quoting are high school and college kids.... And there wouldnt be a one of them who would even think about donating that amount of money to USAR. If anything you would need to look at the Sr Men's numbers only as I doubt many of the women would donate a good amount of money for a mens only competition.... So what are you looking at now? Maybe 10,000 people to get donations from? Of that you'd probably get less than 5% to buy in to this donation plan. So at most you're looking at 500 people x $300 and you're looking at about $150K in donations from your average... good, but not even close to what you need.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SemiProRugby</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:37:19 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>Working Class Rugger says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@GrantCole Very good ideas. If you could get 100,000 Rugger's contributing $25/month which is $300 per year totaling $30 million dollars annually.More than enough to run a reasonable 12 week initial season, hire facilities, likely pay for production costs for any TV and importantly provide reasonable contracts for players for say a 26 week period.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:38:32 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>GrantCole says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why set a minimum invest amount? If progressive political entities can raise a boatload of money with $10-50 donations, why not open invest levels to whatever the individual chooses (and whenever)? I'd invest $25/month to see this product. Attach benefits to each level of investment beyond chance of an ROI (discounted tickets, discounted online purchases, branded credit card with air miles, hotel rewards, etc). Kickstarter could possibly provide the crowd-sourced fund-raising app that tracks who invested what, as well as attract other-than-rugby investors early. Use #SemiProRugby's idea of paralleling with MLS franchises for stadium access. MLS also has established media access that could be exploited.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>GrantCole</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:38:51 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>FrontRow says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I think the initial investment for professional rugby in the US can be raised by issuing public shares of stock like Green Bay Packers of the NFL. There are about 100,000 active players on USA Rugby rolls, and probably twice as many "old boys" who are no longer CIPPed but still follow rugby. If at least two-thirds of this core group of rugby supporters agree to "invest" $250 each, we could raise $50mil - enough to support a small semi-pro competition for a few years until it becomes self-sustaining or attracts more investment from heavy hitters like Mark Cuban or Brian Moynihan. I honestly think this could work. If it works for NFL, why not rugby?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>FrontRow</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:17:07 --500</pubDate>
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			<title>Givesometakesome says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This 3.5 million dollar figure is such a farce. If you actually believe it will only cost 3.5 mil to run this league then you are blind. I mean 500k for each team??? thats insane. First off 25 man teams wouldn't even be enough to have a productive practice. And what about practice equipment/facilities, trainers, INSURANCE. I feel like you wrote up this budget in some type of rugby vacuum where ruggers sleep 6 days out of the week and then play on the weekend.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Givesometakesome</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:20:49 --500</pubDate>
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